Charlie Kirk and 9/11

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Shalom, Grace and Peace in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

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My name is Daniel Miller and this is the Notes I Leave Podcast

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you to share this episode more frequently, it really isn't.

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In fact, the reason for mentioning this along the same vein of

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this title is to not be clickbait and to not be with the world,

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but be aligned with God in heaven.

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So even as I title this episode Charlie Kirk and 9 11, the purpose

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of it isn't to have more hits or views because of the name Charlie

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Kirk or 9 11.

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It really is a few weeks delayed and when that would have been

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most ideal to publish it merely for clicks.

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But I wanted to conclude the three episode plan we have with Rapture

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perspectives, Tribulation perspectives and Millennial perspectives.

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And then the time feels and seems right in led by the Spirit to publish this.

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Now I also don't want to not state something on this because in

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the nature of this podcast is the Notes I Leave.

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It is really something that whether we're able to use this right

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away or we come back to it, and whether you are a former student,

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I've had a current student, I've had my children who are little

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now, that have grown up myself, watching this again, to remind

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myself of what the events of this assassination attempt were like

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or the events of my high school experience when 9, 11 occurred,

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what that was like.

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Regardless, that all fulfills a purpose and.

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And it is a privilege to be able to keep this on the air, to meet

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all of those needs as they arise.

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And so what I'd like to do with the first half of this episode

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is to speak to really the impact Charlie Kirk had on the generation

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that I have the privilege of teaching at the high school, the

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Christian high school that I'm at, share some of those experiences

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that occurred on September 10th and September 11th as the students

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heard this news, and I was able to, as their elder, as their teacher,

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watch how it was affecting them differently than it was other

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people of different generations, including mine.

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And as a spoiler alert, I walked away from it really thinking

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the best way that I could relate to them was my September 11, 2001 experience.

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And so in the members only section, I'm going to share my experience

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on that as a reflection.

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So I hope you join me for both.

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But let's get right into it.

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And specifically, what we want to get into is God's Word.

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And so I've actually picked a verse that was, as far as I can

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tell, near and dear to Charlie Kirk and his family.

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And so I'd like to read that to you now.

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It's out of the second book of Corinthians, chapter 5, verses

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11 through 15, and it reads as this.

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Therefore, knowing the fear of the Lord, we perceive, we persuade

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men, but we are made manifest to God.

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And I hope that we are made manifest also in your consciousness.

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We are not again commending ourselves to you, but are giving you,

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on occasion or an occasion to be proud of us, so that you will

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have an answer for those who take pride in appearance, not in heart.

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For if we are beside ourselves, it is for God.

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If we are of sound mind, it is for you.

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For the love of Christ controls us.

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Having concluded this, that one died for all, therefore all died,

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and he died for all, so that they who might live no longer live

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for themselves, but for him who died and rose again on their behalf.

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Beautiful set of verses.

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Charlie was a wonderful example of what it means to be Christian.

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He wasn't perfect, neither.

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None of us are.

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But it was amazing to see his evangelist skills come to the forefront constantly.

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I feel like from my vantage point, which I'll keep brief because

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I want to provide the students that I teach, their vantage point,

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it seemed more political at the very top of the surface.

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But if you watched his videos, I haven't found many where he didn't

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present God's word and in a lot of instances present the gospel

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in addition to what he was talking about that was political.

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I feel blessed to have witnessed part of his memorial service

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this last Sunday.

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I wasn't able to go in person.

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I live three, four states away.

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But it was beautiful to see it cast online and how many people

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showed up and how often the gospel was presented in each of the speakers.

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So I'm thankful that I was able to witness some of that.

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And as I've referenced many times, the men's group that I meet

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with on Wednesday mornings, they were all very impacted by that

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memorial service as well.

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On September 10, I came in like no other day.

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Similar to September 11, 2001, I came in like any other day, no

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other day, and just, you know, business as usual.

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Wednesdays at our high school is a chapel day.

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And so we are in a little bit nicer dress.

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We are having some shortened periods so we can have about an hour

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in chapel and really looking forward to how God's going to work in that.

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And so our lessons in class are abbreviated.

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They're maybe 0.6, 60% of a normal class period.

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And nothing was different up until about noon.

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As you know, Charlie was shot in Utah, which is the same time

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zone is where we're at in Idaho.

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And so it was sometime a little closer to one than closer to noon

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when I think the first person mentioned that something appears

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to have happened.

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And it was one of our history teachers that alerted the rest of

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us that something had happened.

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At our high school, we have a zero tolerance policy to cell phone

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use on the students behalf and even the faculty.

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We are more connected to the computers that we teach from than

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we are our personal devices.

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Those are largely put away, usually only there for emergency purposes.

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The students weren't the first to hear this because they had their

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phones put away in their lockers.

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But it didn't take long for a teacher to mention something in

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a class and the eagerness for students to be connected to verify

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the truth or the non truth, it wasn't too much longer for us.

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The first news that we got was that there was a shooting and that

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there was an assassination attempt in. In Utah.

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But we didn't have confirmation whether Charlie had been killed

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or not until two, maybe three hours later.

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And it was right about the time that school let out that that

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news broke maybe 10, 15 minutes before

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the end of our school period.

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So the policy states that students at the end of school are able

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to return to their locker and turn on their phone and take it

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home with them.

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We encourage them to leave it in their car or leave it at home,

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which a lot do.

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But many of them do bring it into their locker and leave it off

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in their locker.

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And the news, as you would expect, spread like wildfire.

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And while my heart was heavy and I was saddened to hear that,

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it was sort of a sadness that I would feel for anyone that was shot.

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I'm sad to say that Charlie Kirk didn't have a special place in my heart.

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But I also wasn't his target audience.

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But I do teach his target audience.

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And as I walked through the halls and saw one by one, them officially

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know what had happened, I was incredibly discouraged and incredibly

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heartbroken because of the empathy I have for them and what they

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were going through in that very moment in time.

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Also disgusted because someone had decided to release, perhaps

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more than one person had decided to release very graphic footage

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of a very personal event online.

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And many students were able to get a hold of that.

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And we as humans have a curiosity to look at that sort of stuff.

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It's why scary movies exist and people watch them.

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It's why if there's a wreck on the side of the freeway, that everyone

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slows down to look at it slower than we need to slow down for safety purposes.

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There's a weird curiosity, and I can absolutely relate in my previous

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life, that curiosity.

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But I knew pretty early on that I didn't want to be seen any of

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this footage at all.

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It's very personal to him and to his family.

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I hate that it is available online for anyone to watch.

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I hate that.

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Likely it'll be something that his children will be able to watch one day.

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I hope that his wife hasn't watched it, but it seems like just

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about everybody has by this time.

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It sounds like some of the videos have been pulled down, and I'm

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thankful for that.

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But for the kids at our school, the damage was done most.

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I would say probably 80 to 90% of the kids have seen it and that

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they saw it likely within the first few hours.

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I remember crossing paths with our principal, and the first thing

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he said is, did you hear and did you see it?

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And I said, no, I don't think I want to see it.

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And he says, I really regret that I saw it.

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And he advised me not to watch it.

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Shortly thereafter, right outside of my classroom, there were

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some students that were racing to their phone to watch the footage.

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They had heard the news, but then they'd heard that there was also footage.

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And so they were racing to their phone to watch the footage.

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And the volume was all the way up.

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And I unfortunately heard the things that were going on in that.

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Those last moments of his life.

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And I asked the students to be more aware that people may not

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want to hear that or to see that.

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And have since had conversations with those students about that

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and love them dearly.

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They're younger students.

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So again, it makes me sad that they had access to that.

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And at their age I would not have had even the smallest inkling

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to think about anything around my personal bubble, whether there

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was somebody that was an earshot to hear something like that or

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somebody over my shoulder that could see something like that.

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So in that day I was very saddened and troubled.

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I actually went to the college class I teach that night and it

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was pretty much silent during the entire class.

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They had a quiz to take, so it made it really easy.

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But I contemplated maybe canceling class that night.

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And students were super gracious and understanding and comforting about it.

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Many of them were affected as well.

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And we got through it the next day.

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Our school dedicated about 30 minutes at the beginning of school

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as sort of a worship service for Charlie and for any of the students

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that needed that extra time to process.

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We excused any absences that students needed to have to kind of

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get through this rough period of time.

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To the students credit, I don't recall any students that actually

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missed, but many of the students were there at that worship service.

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We then went back to classes as normal.

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And I dedicated essentially the entire day to not only speaking

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about Charlie Kirk, but listening to what they had to say about

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Charlie Kirk in the times where there wasn't a whole lot that

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they wanted to say.

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I then turned it over to my 911 experience as the best way that

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I could relate to them in that moment in time.

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And I have some very graphic details of my 911 experience that

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have not faded in my memory for 20 plus years.

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I guess it'd be just over 24 years now.

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So I was able to share that with a number of the students.

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But more important than that, I was able to see the trouble and

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pain on their face and these 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 year olds, what

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he truly meant to them.

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You know, there's a quote that has been on my heart tremendously

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the last month or so, and it is present the gospel in all things

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that you do, and when necessary, use words.

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And I felt like that was accomplished that day, that there was

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a lot of silence that most would define as awkward silence, but

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from a sociology perspective, it wasn't awkward.

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It was, it was rest, it was contemplation.

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And I could see the emotions being processed through many, many

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of the students.

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A few of them took the opportunity to talk about what he meant

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to them and a great deal more talked about how this was not a

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time for them to shy away as Christians, but for them to rise

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up and for them to best make him proud in a sense, and continue

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walking towards Christ as Charlie did, and to continue proclaiming

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the Gospel as he did.

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And throughout that day, the biggest take home that I had takes

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us to Ephesians 4:11.

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In Ephesians 4:11, it talks about essentially the gifts and the

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roles that each of us provide to the church.

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And your translation will either list four or five of them and

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the fourth one is sort of a combination with the fifth or separate,

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depending on the translation.

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And so in no particular order, the five possible translations.

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And I'll mention the two that are combined as the last two last

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to kind of connect that depending on your translation.

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But we have apostles, we have prophets, we have evangelists, and

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then we have shepherds or pastors, that just being a Greek word

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in its translation.

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Most Bibles, that's the only time the word pastors is mentioned.

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I totally shouldn't say most Bibles.

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I should say most literal translations of God's word.

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That's the only instance where we have the word pastors appear

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in the Bible.

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It's more commonly reference to shepherd.

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And so but either or shepherd or pastor for that fourth one.

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And sometimes that's combined with a fifth teacher.

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So some translations will say apostles, prophets, evangelists

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and teachers, pastors, and some will mention them all as separate

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as five different categories as opposed to four different categories.

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I wouldn't say I have 100% conviction that teacher, pastor is

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separate, but I can provide separate definitions for them.

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And I do see how they could be separate roles within the church.

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I bring this up because to me it's quite clear that Charlie was

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an evangelist and potentially even an apostle.

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Apostle is something that's debated.

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So some say that there was an apostle age and the apostles or

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the twelve disciples of Christ that went and set out along with

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Paul to establish the church and everyone that helped them, they

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were apostles and that was the apostle age.

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I don't know that I agree with that.

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But as it stands, there isn't too much of a distinction between

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an apostle and an evangelist, other than it appears that an apostle

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is one who more sort of paves the way, founds the church, plants the church.

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So could that be a pastor that does that? Absolutely.

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A lot of times that it is.

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And in these five roles, four or five roles of the church and

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for the church's benefit, there isn't necessarily one that is only you.

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A lot of times we are split into other categories.

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And so again, I would say Charlie was probably an evangelist. Apostle.

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An evangelist is going to proclaim the word, he's going to share

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the good news to all that they encounter.

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And Charlie certainly did that prophets are going to be sort of

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the lips for the Lord.

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There's a lot of controversy in that, and I won't take this time

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in this podcast to cover that, but there's a lot of controversy

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on whether the prophet age is, is over, whether that still continues.

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There's even some thoughts as a sort of a weigh in testing period

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is the current version of a prophetic period, if that is to exist today.

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But nevertheless, a prophet is the one who is.

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Their lips are used by God to transfer messages.

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I think that also visions fall into that and then dreams and all

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sorts of other things fall into that for those specific, specific people.

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I personally have a lot of experience in that with dreams and,

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and I would call them dreams slash visions, those sorts of things.

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And then we have the, the teachers and then the pastors and the

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teachers I really see as sort of like an elder board of churches

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that really disciple people one on one in extreme depth to teach

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sound doctrine to them and teach them how to have a relationship

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with Christ over time.

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And then the pastors are sort of the shepherds of the flock, if

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you will, of that specific church.

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And I very purposefully don't use the word head of the church

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because that's Christ and all churches are under his headship, his kingship.

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And so those five roles I see as equal roles, again, whether you

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count them as four or five.

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And what I, what I'm bringing this up in maybe too much detail

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on is what I shared with the kids is that it was very clear that

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Charlie was an evangelist and potentially also an apostle.

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That doesn't mean that we all have to be an evangelist, that we

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all have to be an apostle.

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What it does mean is that we need to pray into the Lord, that

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we need to find out what our talents and gifts.

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Gifts are, and that we need to be open to using those talents

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and gifts for his glory, for his church, in the way that he sees fit.

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And so with that, for me personally, I see myself almost exclusively

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as a teacher.

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And I do my best on a daily basis to honor him in my teachings

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and what I do.

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And really, they aren't my teachings, they're his teachings that

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pass through me, even those that come from the scientific realm.

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I wouldn't know that information if it wasn't for him.

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But for students to really dig deep in prayer on which of those

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five or combination of five that they are, and to understand that

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Charlie didn't have a better seat in heaven or doesn't have a

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better seat in heaven because of how wonderful he was here on

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Earth, and that our journey and our service isn't going to look

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the same as his, more than likely.

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And we're not going to have the accomplishments that he did, especially

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by 31 years old.

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But that's okay because our story looks different and our accomplishments

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are going to look different in our public image, if there is any,

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is going to look different.

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We're not all meant to have the following that he did here on

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Earth, but we are all meant to impact those that are in our circle,

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those that we come across in a beautiful way.

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I'll just give you a closing little example here, a little story,

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if you will.

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I was at a co op here in my local area, and I've gone there quite a bit.

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And they're a little on the expensive side, but they've got good

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quality stuff and I enjoy going there. And.

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And mainly what I get there is chicken feed for the chickens that we have.

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And they had a credit card processing issue for the last four, four days.

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And so basically they were only able to accept cash.

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When I was in line, the woman in front of me tried like three

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cards and it kept getting declined.

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And I said, don't worry about it, I've got it.

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And she refused it.

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It was like $50.

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She said, that's way too much.

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No, thank you.

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Thank you for saying that, but no thank you.

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And she went and left to go find her husband who had her wallet

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in the parking lot. And they.

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She thought she had enough cash to cover it.

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And so then I come up and I had kind of interpreted the trouble

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she was having as potentially maybe insufficient funds or something like that.

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And it wasn't it was a credit card processing, a debit card processing issue.

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And all my stuff got declined as well.

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And so I asked the.

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The clerk what they recommended.

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And basically it was, go get cash.

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That's our only option at this point.

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And so I said, you know, thanked him for their time and left the

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goods there and. And left.

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And I decided that I was going to go to another store that was

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a little closer to home.

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I'd been meaning to try that store out, and so I did that.

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But before I went there, I went to a drive through to get a smoothie

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and some pretzels and those sorts of things.

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And I pulled behind this vehicle and I noticed on the back of

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the vehicle it stated that in basically a suicide defense that

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you are of value and please do not take your life today.

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You are loved.

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The world is better for you.

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And just a really moving statement on the back of this vehicle

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that was in sticker form that had been put on there for probably some time.

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And I've gone through suicidal thoughts at least twice in my life,

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Serious, serious thoughts twice in my life, non serious, many

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other times in my life.

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And so I have a heart for that.

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And then as I came around the corner and was directly behind them

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as they were at the pay window, I noticed a church that they go

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to, the sticker there and a license plate frame that said something

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along the lines of Blessings from God.

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And at that moment I was just really touched.

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And so I actually stopped, opened my vehicle in the middle of

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a drive through, which is kind of strange, but I got up and I

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went to the passenger side and I waved at them through the passenger

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window, which is also kind of strange in a drive through.

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And they opened up their window and I just said, would you allow

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me to pay for your meal, please?

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And she instantly, this younger girl in the driver's seat almost

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instantly started sobbing and kind of looked at me like, why would

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you do that?

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And I said, I'm really touched by the note that you have on the

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back of the vehicle and, and all that.

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And I didn't go into detail at all about my experience, but she

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got more emotional and she said, this is actually my mom's car

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and she is an advocate for people struggling with suicide and

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has put that on the back of her car with.

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With a phone number because of me, because of the young girl sitting

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in the driver's seat that she had gone through suicidal periods.

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And she even.

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She showed me her wrist and she said, I even have this tattoo

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to kind of Prove it.

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And it was a semicolon, and I totally didn't understand the significance.

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And so I asked her to explain it, and she said, well, in writing,

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when you haven't fully concluded your thought in a sentence, you

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use a semicolon to continue it into another sentence. Sentence.

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And so in that way, the symbolism for me of the semicolon is that

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my life story isn't complete yet and that I'm going to continue forward.

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And for me, that was super powerful and super emotional.

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And I was just so thankful that the Lord provided an opportunity

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for me to awkwardly walk up to these people that I've never met

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in my life, a vehicle that I've never seen before, and simply

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pay for their meal and have a wonderful conversation.

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She was so moved by it, she called her mom right there as I went

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back to the vehicle.

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And she shared with her mom the story that had just happened.

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And they got their food, I pulled up, and I was able to pay for

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both of the meals.

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And so is that evangelism? Potentially? Partially.

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You know, going back to that quote, in all things, you do present

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the gospel and when necessary, use words.

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I think that was accomplished today in that instance.

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And it cost me $30 to do.

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It was not something that was a big deal in terms of finances.

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And I already have received far more than I could ever pay back

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from that $30 or anything similar in just being a member of that

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part of that story.

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It was absolutely amazing.

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And, you know, maybe it afforded her whatever or good story tonight

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again when she sees her mom in person.

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I don't know.

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But I'm thankful that in that moment in time, I felt led by the

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Spirit to do that and show my capacity to respond in the moment

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in time in a teaching or evangelist or maybe even an apostle like fashion.

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And so that was my point in sharing that today on the podcast,

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as well as when I shared that with the students that I work with,

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that we need to be ready and we need to honor Charlie's life because

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he honored God, and we're honoring God in continuing Charlie's work.

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We're not honoring Charlie as if he is any more than any of us.

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He's a human being, a human being that's no longer with us. And we.

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We believe is in the presence of the Lord, and.

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And we honor the same king, Jesus Christ, the same king that he served.

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We are to be aware of these five talents, these five gifts, and

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we are to use them wisely and use them daily.

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And so I encourage you to look at Ephesians 4:11.

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If you haven't recently, or perhaps ever, and begin to identify

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which of those roles you can best fulfill.

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As a concluding quote, I would love to share one of Charlie's

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quotes seems fitting to the episode and he states that it is the

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responsibility of the individual to protect their own freedom

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and secure their own happiness.

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And he did that.

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He did that, and we all should do that.

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We're far too reliant on the government.

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We're far too reliant on perhaps even the churches we attend to

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do things for us.

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But we're all responsible for our walk.

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It's like an education.

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Leave it to me to provide an education example.

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But students are responsible for their own education.

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It's not the teacher who's responsible.

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The teacher needs to disseminate the information accurately, but

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the education is the responsibility of the student and what they

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make of the experience.

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I learned that the hard way in college, and so I completely agree

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with his quote.

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And my question to conclude before we transition to this members

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only segment is again Ephesians 4:11.

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What role of those four or five in the church do you play?

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transition to now.

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And so before I officially do that and get ready to share my experiences

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from September 11, 2001, I want to thank you.

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I want to express my gratitude that you are here with us and that

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you are continuing to dive into God's Word on a daily basis and

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you are praying and that you are walking the narrow path.

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So thank you so much and I love you dearly.

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Until next time.

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May the peace of Christ dwell richly in you.

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And may I also express Maranantha, which is an Aramaic word translating

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to come, Lord Jesus.