Translations of the Bible

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Shalom, Grace and Peace.

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In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

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My name is Daniel Miller and this is the Notes I Leave Podcast.

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Well, welcome and I appreciate you so much for being here with me today.

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It is a joy and pleasure to be able to have this platform, to

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be able to speak God's Word.

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Each week as I reflect on what God has placed on my heart.

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This week, I want to jump right into translations of the Bible.

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I've produced a number of courses over the years and through various platforms.

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My courses on translations of the Bible have, oddly enough, been

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the most successful courses that I've had.

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I say oddly enough because my background is in kinesiology, exercise

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science, anatomy and physiology, biology, all those sorts of things.

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And translations of the Bible doesn't really fit under that educational

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breath, if you will, searching for the right word there.

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But it does fit under God's Word, of course.

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And that has overtaken my life in a very good way.

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It has overtaken my life in which if I get any degree, any plan

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for another degree in the future, for the rest of my life, it's

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a very strong chance it'll be in something pertaining to God's Word.

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So also very humbling and very cool that the most successful course

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I've ever published online has to do with translations of the Bible.

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And when I think of why I wanted to start this podcast back up

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with the title, the Notes I Leave, it is really to share things

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that I've learned over the years, specifically during my time

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as a Christian.

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I remember in 2019 when I fell to my knees and I said, lord, take me.

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I can't do this without you.

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My life is yours now.

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I remember during that time I knew of the Bible, I knew of Jesus,

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but pertaining to the Bible and different translations, no clue.

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Couldn't have told you what the original languages were.

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I couldn't have told you what different translations were.

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The closest I could have told you anything about the word translation

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would have been as it pertains to cellular biology, nothing to

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do with God's Word.

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And so as I learned more and more about different translations

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and those sorts of things and their purpose and where they fit,

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I just dove right in and published a course on it, number of courses

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on it, and they've been very successful.

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So that tells me that people have walked my path as well, where

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they went into Christianity, not knowing the difference between

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an NLT and an NIV and those sorts of things.

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And so I want to dedicate a decent amount of time today to talk

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about that topic. Foreshadowing ahead.

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I have a a personal, vulnerable story that I'd like to share with

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you during the members only segment to conclude the second half

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of this podcast.

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It is, it's come up this week and I think that there God can be

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glorified through the story, and that's really all that matters.

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So it's, it's not worth telling the story if I'm going to speak

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to it as how it troubled me.

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It's worth talking about the story if it's going to glorify God.

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And so that's what I aim to do in that process.

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Let's start off a little bit, perhaps out of order.

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Let's start with a Bible verse here that talks about the Tower of Babel.

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And this will probably be a better job of springboarding us into

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that translations of the Bible conversation than placing the verse

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a little bit later.

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And so if you have your Bibles, and this is the beauty of the

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podcast, right, pause and get your Bible, come back and open it

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to Genesis 11, verses 1 through 9.

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A little off topic, but perhaps not.

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It's one of my pet peeves when a pastor says, turn with me to

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Acts 15, if you will, and everybody's in the congregation flipping

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over to Acts 15, and you've got people that open right to Acts

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15, either by chance or they know the Bible that well.

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If you're, if your pastor is teaching expositionally, then you're

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going in order.

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And so you were in Acts 14 last week, so you probably knew you

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were going to be in Acts 15.

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So that helps.

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But for those that are new to the church or those that have pastors

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that teach topical, a lot of times the pastor just jumps straight into it.

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And I say embrace a little bit of awkward silence and let people

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get to that point in the Bible so they can be with you.

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Because a lot of people, they just won't even open it because

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they know they're not going to have enough time.

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And a lot of people will go on their phone and they'll open it that way.

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And I don't think there's anything wrong with having the Bible

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on your phone, but you have a whole bunch of other apps as well.

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And you could probably relate to me as a churchgoer and cite evidence

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of times where you've looked around the congregation and seen

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people on their phone not looking at God's word, looking at some other things.

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So too many distractions there.

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I really enjoy taking a hard copy of God's Word and I like to

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have the time to turn to where we're going to be.

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So whether you chose to pause and then turn to Genesis 11 verses

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1 through 9, or you listen to my little side story there, and

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that gave you enough time to turn to Genesis 11 verses 1 through

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9, let's go ahead and read that now.

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And in the spirit of translations, I'm reading this out of the

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New American Standard Bible, copyright 1995.

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Verse 1 Now the whole earth used the same language in the same words.

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Verse 2 It came about as they journeyed east, and they found a

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plain in the land of Shinar and settled there.

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They said to one another, come, let us make bricks and burn them thoroughly.

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And they used bricks for stone and they used tar for mortar.

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Verse 4 they said, Come, let us build for ourselves a city and

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a tower whose top will reach into heaven, and let us make for

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ourselves a name, otherwise we will be scattered abroad over the

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face of the whole earth.

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Verse 5 the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which

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the sons of men had built.

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Verse 6 the Lord said, behold, they are one people, and they all

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have the same language, and this is what they have began to do,

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and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them.

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Verse 7 Come, let us go down and there confuse their language

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so that they will not understand one another's speech.

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Verse 8 so the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the

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face of the whole earth, and they stopped building the city.

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Verse 9 Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the

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LORD confused the language of the whole earth, and from there

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the LORD scattered them abroad over the face of the whole earth.

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So many of us probably remember this story, and I certainly won't

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get into the commentary of this.

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I neither have the education or historical experience to be able

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to accurately provide commentary to you on that.

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But this speaks about language, and we're going to be speaking

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about language today.

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There are some remarkable things that the Lord has done in regards

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to language, both diversing language and and unifying language

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over time so that His Word can reach the masses, can reach all

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sorts of people in this time.

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Genesis, its original language as it was written is Hebrew.

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And whether this is speaking to these people, speaking the Hebrew

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language is probably unlikely because they scattered from there.

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So whether it was a language that only existed at that time and

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ceased to exist at that point in time and everybody had separate

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languages, or one population of people, perhaps the lineage of

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Israel on to Noah, Abraham, all the way through, perhaps that

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grouping of people that line of people continued that language,

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but everyone else had a different language.

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I'm not sure.

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Neither does it matter.

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And a lot of times in God's Word, we get stuck on the minutiae

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of things and the things we can't answer.

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But if we stop and think about it, it really doesn't matter if

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we have the answer, because it doesn't change God's story.

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But what we do know, what is written is that there was a language

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and then the people were dispersed into many languages from that point.

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We also see that in Jesus time, I believe it was about 300 years

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after Malachi was written.

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The Old Testament is complete in Hebrew writing.

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Then you see the spread of the Greek language.

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God actually allows the Greek people to expand an empire.

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And we can ask many questions as to why that would have been.

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But one thing that we know is that the Greek language took over.

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And why was that beneficial?

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Well, when Jesus came and when the New Testament began to be written,

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it was written in Greek.

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And now that there's been this language throughout this vast area,

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you now have a New Testament that can be taught to many people

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without the barrier of language.

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So again, here in the Tower of Babel, we see a disperse of language.

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And here as the Greek Empire rises, we see actually a unification

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of language which we would identify.

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The spread of the Greek Empire is probably a bad thing for the

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most part, but God uses that bad thing, potentially bad thing,

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as a good thing in being able to spread the message of his son, Jesus Christ.

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Later on in the members only section, I'm going to talk about

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a bad thing that happened, but actually reaffirm something God's

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doing in our life.

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And so we don't always need the confirmation of something in our

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life to be met with a good confirmation.

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Sometimes it's met with a bad thing that God uses for his good,

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for all those who love Him. Right.

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And so we have Hebrew for the Old Testament, we have Greek for

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the New Testament.

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There's some Aramaic in there as well, which I don't fully understand

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where that fits in.

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But that was a language at Jesus's time as he was growing up.

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And now we are are speaking to each other in English right now.

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This podcast isn't translated into other languages.

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And so if you're listening to this podcast, you speak English

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as well, or at least you understand English.

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We know that throughout the earth there are many languages today.

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How many of those languages go directly back to this Tower of Babel?

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Again, I don't know.

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But I do know that there is reason for that diversification of languages.

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And there is something to the saying of Lost in Translation.

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I have a mother in law who is from Ukraine and love her dearly.

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But there can often be conflict when two cultures come together

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because one culture doesn't understand the other culture.

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For instance, I've learned over the years that for her and her

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people where she's from, food is a big celebratory thing and I

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should fit right in with that.

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I love food.

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But I've also learned that it's disrespectful not to try different

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things that are brought to you as a gift.

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I don't know if you can relate to this or not.

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I was actually just speaking with a friend Tuesday night about

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this, but I tend to not go to potlucks and those sorts of things

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because I'm a little weird about other people's food and other people's cooking.

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Growing up, if it wasn't Grandma's cooking or now my wife's cooking,

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I really don't want anything to do with it, which is silly because

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I'll go order out and stuff like that.

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But I'm also one of those people that if I find a place that I

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like, I'm going to order the same thing over and over.

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And so don't ask me about their menu because I can tell you about

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one thing and basically one thing only.

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So all that to say you kind of get pigeonholed into that mind

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frame and you don't necessarily think about how you might be offending

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someone when they bring something new, or how you may not even

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be providing the opportunity for discussion and fellowship with

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people if you're just not going to show up because there's going

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to be food there and you're worried about offending someone by

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not consuming their food.

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And so I've done the brave thing, I suppose, over the last couple

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years and started to try more things.

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And full disclosure, some of it I really do not like, and I do

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my best in those instances.

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But a beautiful thing is I found lots of other things that I do

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like that I probably wouldn't have realized otherwise.

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Getting a little off track there.

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But the point is that with different cultures and oftentimes different

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languages, there are things that are lost in translations.

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She'll ask me all the time when we're around each other, like,

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how do you say this?

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Or we'll try and kind of figure it out.

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And oftentimes we do, and.

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And technology has helped in that regard.

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A lot of times that can mediate the gap.

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But when we take God's word in Hebrew and then we bring it over

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to Greek, this was called the Septuagint.

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It was the first complete edition of the Bible in which everything

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was in Greek.

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So the New Testament didn't need to be translated because it was

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already in Greek, provided there weren't some aromatic Aramaic

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things, which I think that there were.

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But again, I don't fully understand that.

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There's still more research to be done there.

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But now the Old Testament was in Hebrew, so that's now translated

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one language over to Greek.

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And then from the Septuagint we have translations from there,

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some of which even translate back to the Hebrew original language.

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But since it's not really an active language past that point in

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time, it's mainly stemming from the Greek.

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And so we, long story short, we eventually get to English and

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then we get to English.

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And what most of us as when we become new Christians are confused

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with is all these different acronyms.

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I've probably heard of the King James and maybe even the new King

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James, but what is this new American standard?

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What is this English standard?

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What is this new international version, this new living translation,

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all these different things?

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Well, I think the most simplistic way to think about this in the

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English language, to kind of get past the different languages

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part of the conversation and enter into just the English language

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part of the conversation, is sort of a spectrum, if you will.

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And with that spectrum, we have two ends of the spectrum.

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And on one end of the spectrum we have basically the emphasis

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for a literal translation or a word for word translation.

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Basically what's done is going back to the original Greek and

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the original Hebrew and what was stated and what is the English

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word that best gets that across?

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I wouldn't say gets the point across, but gets that word across.

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And so the readability for us as English speakers tends to decrease

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in that instance and it tends to come across as a little bit more

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choppy because it's difficult to to do those things.

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For one, Hebrew writes in a different direction.

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We write from left to right.

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Hebrew writes from right to left.

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Hebrew also is a picture graphic language where there was a lot

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of meaning to the letters that they wrote and the symbolism of

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that as well as the meaning of the word.

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And then Greek has its other nuances to it as well.

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So you get my point that it's not a perfect translation, that

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this word always means this.

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A good example in the Greek would be love.

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Where we have the word we use is love.

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But In Greek, they use many different words for love, including

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agape and philo, or philo, however you pronounce it.

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My favorite team is the Philadelphia Eagles, that feel that philo

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comes from that love, which is why we call the city of Philadelphia

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the city of brotherly love.

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Because philo, Philo means brotherly love.

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And it's a different love than agape, which.

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Agape love is a love that is sacrificial, like, I would give my

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life for you, so I'd have a agape love for my wife and my children.

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And I'd like to think I have that same sort of love for my friends,

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especially my dear friends.

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But for, let's say if I go to a Philadelphia Eagles game and I'm

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sitting next to a stranger and all we know is we have a commonality

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of being fans of the same team, we might say that we have a philo

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or philo love for each other, that brotherly love.

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And so that would make sense to us explaining it like that.

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But what American word, what English word do we use is generally just love.

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And so there's a lot of lost in translation there that can occur.

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On the other end of the spectrum, you have a thought for thought

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translation, or more of a paraphrase translation.

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And with that they're taking the whole verse or the whole statement

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or the whole sentence, and they're looking for what is the thought

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here and how can we get that into the English language as accurately

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as we can, but keeping the readability high.

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So where this ties into my path as a Christian was I had a copy

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of God's Word on my dresser when I called myself a Christian,

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but I wasn't.

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And when I fell to my knees and gave my life to Christ and was

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born again, I went and grabbed that Bible and I started reading

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it, not realizing what translation it was, that there even were

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different translations, any of that.

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It was just a nice leather bound copy that I'd purchased a number

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of years prior.

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Literally, embarrassingly, it was a coffee table centerpiece at

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that point in time.

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I remember growing up, we had a big family Bible that sat on the coffee table.

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We never opened it, literally just decoration.

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And so I was doing that myself essentially when I finally opened it.

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And I'm thankful that it was an NLT version, because NLT New Living

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Translation Version is more on that thought for thought, paraphrased

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side of things.

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And so the readability was, was great for me.

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I could understand a lot of things that were coming through.

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And then I picked up another copy of God's Word and noticed that

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it was niv, new international version.

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I read it and noticed there were some differences.

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So now I start asking questions like, well, isn't God's Word God's Word?

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Why is there different words here?

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And I started to get into this rabbit hole of translations.

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I believe that translations exist to meet us where we're at.

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In fact, as Christians, more mature Christians especially, it

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is our job to meet other Christians where they're at.

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If they're further down the road than us, it's our job to meet

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them where they're at and more so their job to meet us where we are at.

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To new believers, it is our job to meet them where they are at.

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For instance, if I have a friend that is a non believer or a new

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believer in Christ and he is a recovering alcoholic, it is my

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job, regardless of my convictions on alcohol, to not partake in

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drinking around him.

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It is a good thing for me not to do that, as Romans dictates,

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as it discusses and many other instances of the Bible do as well.

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For me to not participate in that thing that I might like to indulge

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in and feel convicted that it's fine to do so for the sake of

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his walk, his personal walk.

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Is my job to meet him where he's at.

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Well, translations do that for us too.

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Translations meet us where we're at.

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The NLT met me where I was at and it gave me a sort of, I don't

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want to say an elementary education, but it gave me a start into

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what it meant to be a Christian.

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I then moved to the NIV and studied that for years, loved it.

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And I literally shifted and felt that this was the translation

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that was speaking to me best.

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It was no longer the nlt, it was now the niv.

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NIV also, I believe, is the most popular translation, the most produced translation.

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So if you have a copy of God's Word at home, likely it's an niv.

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And, and while I state that off the cuff, if you don't have a

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copy of God's Word, get a hold of me, I will buy you a copy of God's Word.

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My email is danielereba.com like everyone needs a copy of God's Word.

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Okay, never mind all the free resources we have.

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Me personally, I think everybody should have a hard copy of God's Word.

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And if you're a new believer, I would highly recommend the NIV

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or the nlt.

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I would also recommend that you work your way towards more of

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a literal translation.

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So you can get closer to those original languages.

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And that takes us to something like the ESB or, excuse me, esv,

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English Standard Version.

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We also have the csb, the Christian Standard Bible.

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We also have the New King James and the original King James.

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The KJV for King James and the in kjv, New King James.

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We also have the nasb, which stems from the asb.

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The NASB is the New American Standard.

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It stems from the, I believe, 1904 ASB, American Standard Bible.

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The NASB has a newest edition, which is, I think 2020 is when

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it came out, you heard me earlier when I went through Genesis

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11, verse one through nine, quote the 1995 copyright.

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I can talk about that another time.

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But there are some translations in modern times that have gone

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too far in a woke direction and I would not recommend.

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So my daily driver, if you will, is the NASB, but it's the 1995 edition.

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A newer translation that is very similar to that that I would

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recommend is called the Legacy Standard Bible, the lsb.

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That is another good word for word translation.

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My favorite copy of God's Word, which is not my daily driver,

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but it's what I use if I can't understand something in the New

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American Standard Bible is the Amplified Bible.

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They're made by the same foundation and they're both rank really

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high in terms of word for word.

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Essentially what the Amplified does, different than the New American

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Standard Bible is it gives you the options rather than just saying

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we're going to translate this word as this.

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It gives you the possibilities of what it could have been translated

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out to give you more of the picture.

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And so it's a lengthier Bible.

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There's more text to it, but it gives you the ability to kind

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of get more of the picture and the possibilities of translation.

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I really, really enjoy it.

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I use that as my commentary, if I still need commentary.

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On top of that, there are some great commentaries out there.

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I can go into another video on or another podcast of what I recommend

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on that if there's, if there's interest in that.

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I can also share what I have personally behind me on my shelf here.

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It's a 13 volume set and I actually use it quite infrequently

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because generally I can understand what I need to understand in

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the New American Standard Bible and then if not, go to the Amer,

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the Amplified Bible.

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And it's rare that I then have to go another step further, but

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I do have peace with having that behind me that I can just flip

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my chair around and I can grab a copy, one of those 13 volumes

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and get some more information.

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I purposely use that rarely though, because to be clear now, we

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are not in God's Word.

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We're in a commentary of God's Word.

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And I trust the scholars that composed it and I think they did

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a really good job.

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But it now is outside of that inerrancy of God's Word, which I

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do believe exists through translations.

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I think it's kind of silly when we say that, okay, fine, I believe

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that God created the universe, that he created the earth, he created everything.

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But then we don't give him credit as to being able to handle different

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translations and texts.

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Like to me that just seems like nonsense.

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God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven, and it is being

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done, even though we don't recognize it as good because of the

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sin of our human mind.

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He can certainly handle translations.

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And so I, I do believe that his hand is over the work of different

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translations that occur so that when they are received by a believer

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of any maturity, that they can get his message through to that believer.

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The last thing I'll say on this is that for someone like myself

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who is inspired enough, weird enough, to dive deeper and deeper,

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I really is my next step want to learn some Greek and some Hebrew

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so I can go to the original language and not solely rely on these

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word for word translations.

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I don't think that you have to do that, but I'm excited to share

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with you some of the things that I learned in Greek and Hebrew

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over the coming years that could help you with your journey.

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Some of the things like I just mentioned, like Agape and Philo

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or Philo and those sorts of things.

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So to kind of wrap everything up as we shift over to this members

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only section, one of the applications that I'd like to provide

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with you and as I look back on this week and as it pertains to

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this topic, is how the Lord has placed on my heart that he so

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often validates our path in unexpected ways.

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As I will elaborate here in the members only section, there's

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been some things that have happened this week that aren't good things.

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They're really sad, hurtful things actually.

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But it has been a validation of what God has done in our life

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this summer, and I'm excited to share that with you.

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I also want to share with you a quote, A quote that I have for

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you is by John Stott and let me get it here for you.

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Apologize for the delay here.

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It reads as this if headship means power in any sense, that it

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is power to care, not to crush, power to serve, not to dominate,

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power to facilitate self fulfillment, not to frustrate or destroy it.

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Again, that was John Stott and, and what he's speaking to here

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is the self fulfillment of each individual Christian so that as

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fathers of a household, we are entrusted with the teaching of

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our children, then we are entrusted in not our own self fulfillment

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alone, but the self fulfillment, fulfillment of other members

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of our household.

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So often in church and so often in, in families, if you get one

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corrupt leader, it spoils the whole stew.

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And, and a lot of people read headship and think power and think

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all these things that are Americanized, not biblicalized.

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Biblicalized, we're going to go with it biblicized.

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Um, so I, I just, that's on my heart this week really heavily

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to share that with you.

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As, as we get ready to shift over into the members only section,

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question I have for you is who has the authority over the house

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of a Christian family?

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I think I've kind of spilled my answer a little bit already, but

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that is also on my heart and I think a good question for us all to ponder.

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Essentially, is it the pastor of the local church or is it the

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father of the house?

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And I won't state anything further so that you can kind of come

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to your own conclusions on that and do some research there for

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yourself for the call to action.

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We're already running over on time, so I'm not going to dig deep into this.

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You can go to our website and you can find more information there.

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Please consider supporting our podcast.

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It's $12 a month and it'll get you access to the second half.

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And so with that, as we get ready to enter into the second half,

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for those of you that will be signing off at this point in time,

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I want you to know that I love you, that I'm thinking about you,

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that I'm praying for you, and that I'd love to hear from you.

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And so with that, God bless and I love you.

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Until next time.

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May the peace of Christ dwell richly in you.

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And may I also express maranantha, which is an Aramaic word translating

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to come, Lord Jesus.